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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579561" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579561">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hello <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> -- apologies for running a few minutes late! We have a scheduled <strong>planning meeting</strong> today, with the goal of deciding what meetings to have over the next 3 weeks.</p>
<p>I'm still walking to my desk -- so please ,make any <span aria-label="horn" class="emoji emoji-1f4ef" role="img" title="horn">:horn:</span> announcements <span aria-label="horn" class="emoji emoji-1f4ef" role="img" title="horn">:horn:</span> now =)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579751" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579751">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think we have a lot of proposals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579796" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579796">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I think we could entertain some "last minute" proposals -- e.g., the <code>'gcx</code> thing -- and schedule them too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579804">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>non-tech proposal: Our Bug Assignment process. Potential change: start "automatically" assigning bugs after they've been unassigned for N days (rather than waiting for volunteers to take them)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579805">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Maybe a follow-up to parallelization?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579892">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK well let's start by collecting proposals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579945">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Here is the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Ameeting-proposal" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Ameeting-proposal">link to meeting proposals</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579971" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579971">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so I should create an issue there, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579973">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167579985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167579985">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess this might fall into the maintenance and triage one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580003">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580009">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>but maybe not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580076" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580076">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay. Maybe we can plan to reschedule "Maintenance and triage" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/90" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/90">#90</a> for end of June?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580104">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me goes to look if he would end up unexpectedly skipping the meeting again if we did that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580172" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580172">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could schedule anytime in next 3 weeks I thik. One consideration is that the mozilla all hands is coming up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580186" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580186">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>There is</p>
<ul>
<li>June 14</li>
<li>June 21</li>
<li>June 28</li>
</ul>



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<p>right, but June 21st overlaps the All-Hands, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580285" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580285">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>Right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580292">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>So maybe we x that one out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580305" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580305">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>Since you and I at least are not available or it will be difficult</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580329">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, I'm proposing we reschedule "Maintenance and triage" for June 28th.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580351">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>that works</p>



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<p>and I would presumably actually write a document in time for that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580369">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can discuss and make plans during all hands :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580374">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I won't be at all-hands</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580376" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580376">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>June 14 discuss 'gcx? maybe an update on parallelization?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580379" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580379">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>babies</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580382">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I won't be at all-hands</p>
</blockquote>
<p>:'(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580386" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580386">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>forgot about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580422">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>are <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> or <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116466">@Zoxc</span> around right now?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580486">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Don't see them in the <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> list :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580563" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580563">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could nontheless tentatively schedule discussion of <code>'gcx</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580577" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580577">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580710" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580710">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm trying to think if there's anything else that would be good to discuss</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580759">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580763">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do have one thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580777" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580777">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, so proposed schedule for next 3 weeks:</p>
<ul>
<li>June 14 -- discuss how to transition to a single lifetime, maybe some other such things</li>
<li>June 21 -- no official meeting</li>
<li>June 28 -- discuss maintenance and triage</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580781" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580781">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do we need an WG-incr-comp?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580784">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, you had to post that while I was typing :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580800" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580800">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>and/or do we need more testing, like fuzzing, of incr-comp</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580801">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah, because of the bugs rising up there?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580873">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, we have a lot of bugs and I think we may need a strike force to either fix the bugs or build up our test suite</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580891">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am on my phone, on which Zulip is not great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580924">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>We're discussing <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> what to discuss next week. Would you be available then (at this time)?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580929" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580929">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>but my plan, in short, is to introduce a type alias to allow gradually moving over</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580947" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580947">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe my A-incr-comp thoughts are too ill-formed to discuss this month</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167580966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167580966">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>and besides, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> is on leave</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581031" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581031">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>so maybe I'll just spend some time thinking about it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581033" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581033">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I technically can, just need a reminder on thursday or so, I think?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581106" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581106">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>so my plan was to transition TyCtxt&lt;'_, 'tcx, 'tcx&gt;-using code first, to TyCx&lt;'tcx&gt; (name doesn't matter as long as it's unique for easy replacement later)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581107">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK -- my sense <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> is that the incremental discussion is perhaps higher value, it's not so much <em>technical</em> I imagine as a problem of finding the right person to push and organize the effort?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581133" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581133">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>i suppose</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581141" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581141">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>the technical matter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581144" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581144">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>(which doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss it)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581146">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>might be about how to go about testing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581191">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>so my plan was to transition TyCtxt&lt;'_, 'tcx, 'tcx&gt;-using code first, to TyCx&lt;'tcx&gt; (name doesn't matter as long as it's unique for easy replacement later)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>this makes sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581212" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581212">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>land that then start moving 'gcx,'tcx code one InferCtxt user at a time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581217" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581217">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e. how we can maximize bang-for-buck with testing effort w.r.t. incr-comp</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581259">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>by making InferCtxt creation allow both 'tcx,'tcx and 'gcx,'tcx</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581263" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581263">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm wondering if it would be a good time to discuss other naming convention questions -- e.g., going from <code>'tcx</code> to something else, or the "query-context"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581278" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581278">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>(if we did schedule a "transition meeting", I mean)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581296" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581296">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I want to make it shaped like that except without the name changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581300">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>clearly we need to keep the character count the same</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581311">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>so that rustfmt will make the same choices about line breaks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581329">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I vote for 'tcx_tcx_tcx</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581335">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581349">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>ok, so proposed schedule for next 3 weeks:</p>
<ul>
<li>June 14 -- discuss how to transition to a single lifetime, maybe some other such things</li>
<li>June 21 -- no official meeting</li>
<li>June 28 -- discuss maintenance and triage</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581354" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581354">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>and using unique names to facilitate easy renaming later</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581358" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581358">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like we agreed to that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581446">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581454" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581454">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway basically code used with both 'tcx,'tcx and 'gcx,'tcx should be changed last</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581465">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's the trick to doing it not all in one PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581490" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581490">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>IMO</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581518">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok ok. I was just debating if it would make sense to talk next week about the <em>current situation</em> (i.e., regressions, p-high bugs) as separate from <em>the general system</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581547">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>anyway basically code used with both 'tcx,'tcx and 'gcx,'tcx should be changed last</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I feel like the aim of a meeting ought to be to help design the end-point also, though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581555">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>ttyl, gotta kill Zulip before it drains my battery (feel free to ping me on Discord, that is not a powerhog)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581559">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>so that we can start documenting it etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581567" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581567">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, ttyl</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581638" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581638">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure, discussing qx: QueryCx&lt;'q&gt; or other such ideas would be better than just the lifetimes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581644">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>sigh :) I like how it's only the 2nd planning meeting and we already failed my goal to have proposals <em>before</em> the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581648" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581648">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'll try to draw up something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581649">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>ok ok. I was just debating if it would make sense to talk next week about the <em>current situation</em> (i.e., regressions, p-high bugs) as separate from <em>the general system</em></p>
</blockquote>
<p>what was this in response to? The Q of discussing A-incr-comp ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581667" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581667">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>one of my more recent crazytown "ideas" is mx: MirCx&lt;'m&gt;</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581668" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581668">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>not directly in response to anything but yeah just a thought</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581685">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>but less viable if the entire compilation is inside it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167581843" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167581843">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>(in theory the proposal for next week's meeting is supposed to be available now, right?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167582335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167582335">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>(in theory the proposal for next week's meeting is supposed to be available now, right?)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes, I'm writing it now :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167582350" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167582350">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>oops I realize we never confirmed3 that "um we're done here"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167582357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167582357">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'm assuming that's true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167582367" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167582367">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Agreed? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167582590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167582590">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="thank you" class="emoji emoji-1f64f" role="img" title="thank you">:thank_you:</span> to everyone :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167583052" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167583052">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I just made a meeting proposal re: 'gcx, tcx -- <a href="https://hackmd.io/vtYAICC-SpqgwByjS_E_Uw" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/vtYAICC-SpqgwByjS_E_Uw">hackmd link here</a>. I restricted editing because "world editable" has been biting us lately, but I'll invite anyone who asks. I already invited <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> to add details =)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167583491" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167583491">(Jun 07 2019 at 14:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>created calendar events, updated schedule, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167591194" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Zoxc <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167591194">(Jun 07 2019 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/57173" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/57173">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/57173</a> will likely conflict heavily with a transition await from 'gcx</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.06.07/near/167593945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E06.2E07.html#167593945">(Jun 07 2019 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Just a humble observation, but it seems like having 25% of meetings be planning meetings is too much overhead. Would it not be more efficient for someone to asynchronously ping the relevant people every 2 weeks asking what they want to discuss (if anything) and how important it is (i.e. what it is blocking) and any relevant background info (or perhaps even have a google form that feeds a spreadsheet of possible discussion topics)? Then at the time of the meeting, just pick the top thing on the priority queue and discuss it? It just seems like a lot of these process things have fallen to pnkfelix and niko recently, and they already seem oversubscribed (though perhaps that's just my perception).</p>



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